A GB News host urged a guest to “stop” after a migrant debate took a heated turn.
GB News’ Patrick Christys was forced in the middle of a debate (Image: GB News )
GB News presenter Patrick Christys was forced to intervene after a tense debate erupted over the imprisonment of two Afghan nationals who raped a 15-year-old girl. During his late-night talk show, the host was joined by columnist Carole Malone and Labour councillor Sebastian Salek, who clashed over controversial statistics of Afghans who commit rape in the UK, in comparison to British nationals. As Carole started: “Aghans are 22 times more likely,” she was interrupted by the councillor, who chastised: “Oh no, Carole, don’t use that statistic, no, don’t do it, it’s been debunked.”
To which she furiously hit back: “Well, I’ve done it because this is important.” Prompting Sebastian to respond: “Okay, let’s talk about it because, because you’ve just used a number that’s been proven wrong, please talk me through that number.” Perplexed by his claim, the columnist refuted: “What do you mean? It’s a government statistic.”
“No, it’s not a Government statistic, how did you reach that figure?” the commentator added, but as he tried to explain the difference, Carole stated: “Let’s concentrate on the rape of the girl, rather than that, because that’s the important thing.” However, the debate spiralled into a furious row, which saw Patrick urge Sebastian to “stop” as voices were raised and fingers were being pointed at one another.
Carole and Sebastian were embroiled in a furious clash (Image: GB News)
As the councillor maintained that the statistic was being used “falsely,” Patrick halted the debate to probe: “Just on that, Sebastian, are you claiming that Afghans are no more likely to sexually assault women and girls, or are you disputing the sheer volume.
“To which he clarified: “I’m specifically disputing the 20 times fact.” The presenter then added: “So you are actually acknowledging, because I would accuse you of splitting hairs, because they are more likely, aren’t they? They just might not be 20 times more likely.”
However, Sebastian stood by his claim and insisted: “We don’t know is the point, because we don’t even know how many Afghans there are in the country.”
To which Carole interjected: “It’s that kind of rationale that lets these people get away with what they’re getting away with, and what this does for me is this strengthens the argument,” but before she could finish, the columnist hit back at the councillor who attemepted to interrupt her point and blasted: “Don’t be rude, that’s the second time you’ve been rude.”
The councillor argued: “Carole, I’m not trying to be rude. Nobody should get away with rape; anybody who rapes somebody should face justice.
The columnist continued: “This strengthens the argument for processing these people offshore.” As Sebastian interjected: “Really?” She added: “People from a different part who treat young women like meat, which these men do and have done.”
Which prompted Sebastian to say: “Yeah, exactly, men.” Carole questioned: “What exactly did you mean when I said men, is it becasue they’re teenagers?”
“What I’m saying is, the problem is men. The problem is men raping women, that is an epidemic in our country, violence against women, and that’s what we have to tackle. Do not tar all asylum seekers with the same brush,” he argued.
Patrick interruped: “Let’s deal with that because I’m a man, I get quite offended when people say the problem is men, I’ve never had a desire to rape a woman in my life. I’ve never had a desire to sexually assault a woman.”
Sebastian responded: “Exactly! So think about how Afghans feel who also haven’t had that but are being maligned with because of it?” To which the host questioned: “Why is it so common then in Afghanistan, Pakistan, in parts of Sudan, in huge swathes of the muslim world, why is it so common?”
The councillor replied: “What I’m telling you, Patrick, is it’s common here as well.” However, as the conversation turned to the deportation of these jailed migrants and the legality of those criminals being minors, Sebastian agreed that “the one who is an adult” should be deported but when asked about the minor, he argued: “I don’t know becasue I don’t know what the law is in this country about children in this country.”
